Television New Zealand
June 10 1993
Reporter Paul Holmes
Internal Affairs Minister Graeme Lee discusses whether children in
childcare are more at risk from sexual abuse from homosexual men than
00:00 REMOTE LIVE I/V Graeme Lee, Minister
Internal Affairs about whether proportionally heterosexual men are more
likely than homosexual men to (sexually) abuse children re in case of
homosexuality, you've got inarguably unnatural, learned behaviour, in a
context, stands to reason there's a predilection to paedophilia or child sex.
I/V Graeme Lee re preference (by homosexuals) for youthful lovers, well-known
established behavioural trend.
I/V Graeme Lee re are you telling me homosexuals and bisexuals are never
involved (in child sex abuse) because Peter Ellis (Christchurch Civic Child
Care Creche worker) is a case to start with.
I/V Graeme Lee re point is answered by the fact numerically it is of course
correct (that heterosexuals abuse children more than homosexuals)
proportionately it's not, I'll give reason why I believe homosexual grouping
have a orientation towards that type of thing because it is unnatural
behaviour they're practising.
I/V Graeme Lee re I could claim that for anybody else saying, because we
don't answer the questions or because colleagues and I don't necessarily
rebut certain arguments, we're irrational.
I/V Graeme Lee re you haven't produced to me today any research except what
you said that there is some views from people in New Zealand that homosexuality is
not involved in paedophilia.
I/V Graeme Lee re I can understand how people don't want to discriminate (on
basis of sexuality), New Zealanders aren't into discrimination, in fact we
don't discriminate, surveys show only 15 percent of homosexuals are
discriminated against, so New Zealanders are not into discrimination, they're
going to respond and say no we don't want that, but that's a different
argument than the issue involved, and I'm going to say in parliament, there
are deep issues, then make up your mind, but be sure to consider the
implications of the law change.
I/V Graeme Lee re proportionately yes (children are more at risk having
homosexual rather than heterosexual men working in childcare centres) .